Susan Cheever and Kevin Griffin —
The Spirituality of Addiction and Recovery

Alcoholics Anonymous co-founder Bill Wilson once said that the program he helped create is, "utter simplicity which encases a complete mystery." Our guests reflect on the Twelve Steps and how they resonate in their personal stories and in Buddhist and Christian teachings.

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is the author of several books, including My Name Is Bill, a biography of the co-founder of AA.

is a Buddhist dharma leader and writer. He's the author of One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps.

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Cheever deftly puts words around a spiritual experiece betweem two poeple in reciovery. that the mere sharing of an experience allows another to put a name on
something perhaps unnamable in themselves up to then